Summary
- The X-Men writers feared that the Avengers would destroy Firestar and Justice, affecting their portrayal in the X-Men books.
- Firestar and Justice's absence from the X-Men books was due to conflicts with their roles in the New Warriors series.
- “Fall of X” helped rejuvenate Firestar's reputation and made him a fan-favorite character in the X-Men universe.
Once there was a concern The X-Men the writers said the two main heroes would be destroyed by the Avengers. The panel fight between the X-Men and the Avengers that spawned its own heartwarming Marvel event is well-documented. However, one dispute that some fans may not be aware of is between the writers X-Men and writers Avengers.
In an interview with AIPT Comics, X-Men editor Jordan D. White discusses The Fall of the X House. White expresses that the writers were concerned when they wanted to use Firestar and Justice in the Krakoan era, but worried that their creative use in Avengers would affect how they look in the film. X-Men books.
This article attempts to dissect White's words to get to the root of the writers' concerns, if they were valid, and to focus on the complex nature of the characters used in the various books, each of which is portrayed differently.
Who are Justice and Firestar?
Understanding Mutants X-Men Forgotten books
To better understand the characters at the center of Jordan D. White's interview, readers must first understand who Justice and Firestar are. Firestar may be the more familiar of the twomaking his screen debut as part of the cast of the popular Saturday morning cartoon, Spiderman and his amazing friends. He first appeared in the show's 1981 premiere episode before being officially introduced to the Marvel canon in 1985. Uncanny X-Men #193. Firestar is a mutant with the power to produce flames equivalent to microwave radiation.
Angelica Jones made her mark on teams like Avengers, X-Men and New Warriors. In the latter, he spent significant time with Vance Astrovik, aka Justice, another mutant with the power of telekinesis. Justice is a staple of the New Warriors and has also been a member of the Avengers. Again, Despite his mutant status, he doesn't have much to do with the X-Men. Meanwhile, Firestar has recently been assigned to work undercover at Orchis as a mole, providing information to the X-Men and becoming their most trusted member.
How Firestar and Justice's Avenger status was affected X-Men books
Some Writers refrained from using Two Characters
When the interview is interrupted, The Fall of the X House #3 was just released. So much of the interview was focused on talking about the end of Krakoan as the home of the X-Men and the end of the Krakoan era. X-Men as a whole. In this matter, Firestar's Dr. Noting how he played a role in the brutal murder of Stasi, AIPT wanted to touch on Firestar's journey during the Krakoan era, from X-fans (and Gerry Duggan) going from police-calling Avenger to heroic sleeper agent.. White's response was:
…But I was hoping to use her and Justice as well because they're both interesting mutant characters. So when we did House of X, I was like, “Oh, let's bring them both to Krakoa.” But none of the writers wanted to use them, so they were not selected for the teams. So they turned to the United States. No, that's obviously not true, but since they were never selected, we never used them. I think Firestar once appeared in the background of a scene in a group shot or something like that.
This would explain why Justice, despite being a mutant, does not appear in the X-books during the Krakoan era.. Justice was always one of the few mutants in the Marvel Universe that was far enough away from Krakoa. Most readers would assume that it was the duties of the New Warriors that kept him busy, but it was creative disinterest that kept him away. Meanwhile, despite Firestar's active involvement and major role in Krakoa's final year, she is more or less a background character in the Krakoa stories prior to the “Fall of X” arc.
Marvel wanted to keep Firestar and Justice busy elsewhere
Updated New Warriors Serials and “Outlaws” Keep Them Away from Krakoa
As important as it is to talk about Krakoa's final era, it's just as important to discuss an entirely different event: Marvel's “Outlaw” storyline. “Outlaw” was a comic event in which teenage heroes were literally banned. Because of Kamala Khan's victimization, the government was encouraged to pass a law requiring superheroes to be 21 or older—the aptly named Kamala Law. It was a storyline that required the participation of all the New Warriors, including Justice and Firestar. According to White, this is another reason for the tension between the writers.
So, since we never used them, when Marvel started developing the Outlaw story, they wanted the New Warriors to be a big part of it. The Avengers Office decided to use all the New Warriors, including Vance and Angie, for this. To be honest with you, it scandalized me, not because I thought they were my characters, but because you put them both against vigilante heroes, I think it really made them look a little bad. I felt he was trying to repeat the discussion a bit on things like
Civil war
.But even with
Civil war
almost all readers sided with Captain America, right? And I think something similar happened here. The way I like to put why this is is that most readers aren't going to side with the comic they're reading that they think shouldn't happen. They want to read comics. So if the other side says, “It's not funny,” they'll go, “Okay, I like the version here.
do
read a comic.” So it was really sad for them that the readers were all against them.
It seems that Marvel needed Justice and Firestar to be part of the Outlaw storyline. New Warriors series. Therefore, the duo could not appear in other books or stories, including X-Men books. This further distanced them from the rest of the mutants in Krakoa. As White discusses, that's when it became a point of frustration for the X-Men editor, namely because of the duo's portrayal. It's not just their existence “Illegal” or New Warriors It may conflict with the plans of White and co. it could be for them. “Outlaw” paints the two in a light that makes them hard to root for.
The complexity of different comics using the same heroes
A character's presence in one comic may prevent them from appearing in another
Firestar and Justice are featured in the rebrand New Warriors series, in addition to being involved in the “Outlaw” storyline, gave Krakoa a boost. But Conflicting plans between different comics and different creative teams is nothing new. This isn't a Marvel problem, it's a comics industry-wide problem that many creative groups have been engaged in. Take DC Comics for example. Superman starred in four separate TV series in the 1990s, but Death of Superman The incident temporarily stopped production on each other Superman the title was then accordingly released.
Recently, at least in some cases, creative teams have been given more freedom to ignore common storylines without sacrificing their material. That's why Batman could continue the adventures of the Dynamic Duo in Joshua Williamson's film. Batman and Robin he is still held captive by Failsafe in the main title series. However, White says it remains an ongoing problem. Not only does having a character in one book prolong potential plans elsewhere, but it can completely derail plans if higher powers are adamant that certain characters not be used elsewhere..
How the X-Men protect Firestar's reputation
“Fall of X” gave him a new life
While Justice doesn't get a chance to gain attention during the “Fall of X” arc (although she is briefly featured as a target of Orchis), storyline happily rebranded Firestar as a fan-favorite hero. Whatever the damage, White was worried about the “Outlaws” and the updated ones New Warriors series had influenced Firestar, it was effectively canceled by the time “Fall of X” ended. In the same vein, instead of ignoring the last time readers saw him, White talks about how: X the creative team chose to bring it up “interesting” it is part of his character.
So when the idea of him being in the second X-Men Election came up, we all immediately said that he was in some ways the anti-superhero when we last saw him. So the whole police thing came out and I thought it was interesting. But if you look, I think
The fall of House X
it is also interesting that all three election winners are important. Both because Firestar helped deliver what happened on Orchis to them earlier in the series, and then he shows up here, they rescue him, and he kills the Stasis. He is already dead, but she kills him twice. It kills him better. [Laughs]
The X-the books continued to build on Firestar's “cop” reputation, making it an aspect of his character that even he tries to reclaim, especially when he tries to be a mole for the X-Men, some X-Men don't even know he's a mole. It's a self-aware narrative device that practically pays off in retrospect. Readers watch as he helps save her X-Men during a difficult time, in significant ways throughout his journey, he has restored his reputation among fans and in the Marvel Universe, because it's so easy to love a hero who tries to do the right thing.
Source: AIPT Comics